StanleyBarnett
English WX21 For Sale November 23, 2016 05:48AM |
Art Bonds
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 25, 2016 04:16AM |
ccc2
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 25, 2016 05:32AM |
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" lack of commitment to the English developer community"
"PCSoft's lack of vision and support for the community? "
This same apply to other toolsQuote
" I would also invest in training "
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"The tools appear to be really good, but if we need to learn French first, then the "develop 10 times faster" no longer holds true..."
StanleyBarnett
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 26, 2016 08:52AM |
Allard
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 26, 2016 02:58PM |
Al
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 27, 2016 12:11AM |
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Tell him he's dreaming
Allard
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 27, 2016 04:54PM |
steve erts
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 27, 2016 08:53PM |
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Al
Hello Allard & ccc2
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Tell him he's dreaming
I think you are wrong about the desktop going away anytime soon. Most of our clients have simply moved to a remote server running Windows - either a single server, ours or theirs co-located or they use one of our multi tenanted servers. So much faster than web based programs and more secure. They can get to the server quickly from workstations in the office and from latops, phone and tablets in the field.
Regards
Al
ccc2
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 28, 2016 02:23AM |
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Allard
Hi CC2
Totally agree with you.I sent pc soft an email last week on the subject that web should be their main target not desktop development.
I am not going to go win windev 22 but insted webdev 22 for sure. I have been working with webdev 21 and it is an amaizing tool. It really is.
But i think pc soft should invest more in decumentation , video.s etc on how to add j query .
It is not as easy as windev and it will problably never be. But compare it to other IDe's . Well then the choise for me is easy!
regards
Allard
GuenterP
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 28, 2016 07:07AM |
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ccc2
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 28, 2016 11:06AM |
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GuenterP
Hi Steve,
I agree, same situation here. We have hundreds of small to medium businesses as customers, none of them had expressed their preference / need for a browser application. In contrary, quite a few of them insist that their computers are not being connected to the web at all. Which makes support by remote access a bit of a problem to us and expensive for them. In case of POS systems our customers want to be able to operate their systems in their shops even if internet is off by some reason. So, we did replicate databases long before PCS had the idea to do so. Next, seeing the browser framing the application is not to the taste of everybody. So, most of our customers are happy with a rented server running HFSQL and applications stay to be desktop.
GuenterP
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 28, 2016 01:02PM |
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StanleyBarnett
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 28, 2016 05:51PM |
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Guenter
word of wisdom: keep away from that approach!
GuenterP
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 29, 2016 09:36AM |
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StanleyBarnett
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 30, 2016 02:29AM |
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Guenter
As a customer, I wouldn't trust my valuable data and my design / software products to somebody who can close business anytime.
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Guenter
We're not going to hand over our business to you!
ccc2
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 30, 2016 05:21AM |
GuenterP
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 30, 2016 08:25AM |
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StanleyBarnett
Re: English WX21 For Sale November 30, 2016 06:10PM |
That is exactly what we have done, as we too believes as you do by NOT allowing our data in the control of others.Quote
Guenter
If "cloud" is really worth pondering with then why not start your own cloud on your own server?
You are correct as Microsoft and Google are paving the way as I've already said above.Quote
ccc2
whether you guys like it or not , you just have to accept it and get use to it. self host server will become more and more expensive and unreliable to do in future
Well, yes and no. It becomes our business when we purchase and use their product as PCS is in the business of building tools that we use. And you say "never tell someone how to do their business", well, I'm not trying to tell them how to do their business, but as a customer, I have every right to tell them what I need to compete with like products, and if they don't listen and provide what is needed, then they do not deserve our business and cash...Quote
Guenter
It's PC Soft's business, not ours. Never try to tell someone how to do their business without knowing each and every detail about it.
Allard
Re: English WX21 For Sale December 01, 2016 01:11PM |
Fabrice Harari
Re: English WX21 For Sale December 01, 2016 07:05PM |
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Allard
If it where possible to use internal pages , in a way that they could be added to a page by programming then You wouyld onley need one page. sadly that is not the case. But maybe in verion 22 Ha ha
Peter Holemans
Re: English WX21 For Sale December 01, 2016 07:55PM |
ccc2
Re: English WX21 For Sale December 02, 2016 05:01AM |
Peter Holemans
Re: English WX21 For Sale December 02, 2016 09:00AM |
Art Bonds
Re: English WX21 For Sale December 02, 2016 05:54PM |
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Allard
Hi ccc2,
With templates webdev can be surprisingly good. , creating a desktop like page. Using the material design ( google ) it looks great
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For now Iam using templates and it really looks good. The looper can be used to do create inline edit . It took me some time but it can do absolutely everything I want it to do.
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But the rest is cool and running on a vps with 2GB mem it is lightnig fast!!
Noel Tanti
Re: English WX21 For Sale December 03, 2016 06:11PM |
Allard
Re: English WX21 For Sale December 04, 2016 01:16AM |
Noel Tanti
Re: English WX21 For Sale December 04, 2016 09:13AM |
Allard
Re: English WX21 For Sale December 04, 2016 12:07PM |
DarrenF
Re: English WX21 For Sale December 04, 2016 12:07PM |
ccc2
Re: English WX21 For Sale December 05, 2016 01:03PM |