Hi Steven Not sure if this is suitable for you, but I have a react app which I connect to HFSQL via a webservice. WebDev has a really nice feature which allows you to expose HFSQL databases as a webservice with full CRUD capability. Also useful as a bridge in any Escape from the Clutches of Bruno scenario. Regards, Derekby DerekM - WinDev Forum
That was also my original thought. However, please see Bruno's latest video. where he talks about Innovation, and his brilliant new innovation of charging for every HFSQL database - basically - anything developed with WinDev will now belong to WinDev. Hey, what a clever innovative little chappie he is ! And in the Manual - you need to get your head around this (below): Also for thosby DerekM - WinDev Forum
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Hi Guenter, That windfall.fr does look very suitable for some. For me, an AI search/analysis suggest that I would be looking at up to $400K given the size of my projects. However, just pointing out their stated conversion path : and delivers C#/.NET to market standards: Blazor, Entity Framework, SQL Server, PostgreSQL, continuous integration. Well, that's the path that I have alreadby DerekM - WinDev Forum
Is there a dongle version and a SAAS version of 2026? I am asking - definitely not trying to explain anything ! Reference: 1. French community confirmations (actual reports) From Developpez.com (largest French WinDev community): “Avec la licence dongle, aucune demande de session.” (“With the dongle license, no session prompt.”) “Le mode SaaS impose la liaison de session, pas leby DerekM - WinDev Forum
Hi Paul Sounds like it. But - if you have 2026 in place - maybe you can explore that and let the rest of us know how it works. Do you have a completed project to test and see what it does when you build and deploy. Much appreciated if you could confirm that and we are not still barking up the wrong tree. Regards, Derekby DerekM - WinDev Forum
WinDev 2026+ isn’t an upgrade — it’s a cash‑harvest. Runtime DRM + Security Center kill‑switches = maximum extraction from existing users, and platforms in harvest mode don’t last long. I think this was already pointed out by a number of people.by DerekM - WinDev Forum
I remember some old IBM or IBM like IDE's back in the 1990's with way overboard licensing costs (thousands per seat when thousands was a lot of money) - but are there really any other comparable scams like this (I am using the word scam because this is predatory - they are preying on the sunk costs of their "customers"). Let me give you a clean, historically grounded, technby DerekM - WinDev Forum
Yep. After all that debate - I was way off. It is a runtime!! . I guess I didn't think that they had the audacity to do that - after entire businesses had worked with the model that they paid for an IDE to help create their own applications rather than using freely available IDE's such as Visual Studio. See new thread. Wow! So, it really is bye-bye WinDev. Oh well, once I get usedby DerekM - WinDev Forum
So - I found a docs page - and asked for the earlier "analysis" of what was happening to be reviewed. - and it turns out that your 2026 exe's are not your old exe's - it is indeed a RUNTIME SYSTEM - not just a server deployment tool - in effect - the exe does belong to PC Soft! You were right. So this is and AI review - given the correct documentation page this time ⭐by DerekM - WinDev Forum
This has now moved well beyond what’s documented today and into predictions about future intentions. I’ve explained the current architecture as it exists: sessions apply only under the optional Security Center, and desktop runtimes aren’t involved. Anyone interested can verify that directly in the published material. I’m leaving it there.by DerekM - WinDev Forum
At this point it’s clear the disagreement isn’t about the documentation, but about the interpretation being fed into the LLM. GROK answered based on the premise it was given — not on the architecture or the actual deployment model. If you tell an LLM that sessions are runtime licences, it will happily explain runtime licences. That’s not a validation or proof, so why not ask PC Soft if you neeby DerekM - WinDev Forum
Security Center == PC Soft’s optional tool you install only if YOU want to count and control how YOUR server‑hosted EXEs are used — it’s your own runtime‑licence manager for your own product, not something PC Soft controls or even sees. They don’t know your clients, your machines, or your usage. They don't care.by DerekM - WinDev Forum
You’ve missed the point. Security Center is optional — you don’t need it. There are things to worry about, but this is not a runtime licence.by DerekM - WinDev Forum
Dmontaine, That's a different kettle of fish. The Application Server is a key component where they could in fact inject predatory pricing. So, in fact, that becomes the main focus regarding any further WinDev/WebDev investment from me. What needs to be investigated is - although the PC Soft Application server is a key component - it does not appear to do anything particularly higby DerekM - WinDev Forum
Chinner, I'm not selling you anything. If the security centre is for the developer, where does the 290 Euros per session go? Are you saying the developer doesn't have to pay anything for end users? Seems that the whole thing is bundled now, rather than up-front picking which modules you want. So you will be paying PC Soft for the bundle which includes sessions. It is also quite cby DerekM - WinDev Forum
The Security Center is a local licence server, not a cloud service. It does not contact PC Soft, does not upload telemetry, and does not enforce runtime licensing. The audit clause you quoted is standard boilerplate found in almost every commercial software licence (Microsoft, Oracle, Adobe, JetBrains, etc.). It is a legal right, not a technical mechanism. The Security Center documentationby DerekM - WinDev Forum
So in this case, the purchase of additional "sessions" is on a trust basis ? Short answer: Yes — the purchase of additional “sessions” is fundamentally on a trust basis. And that’s exactly why this is not a runtime licence and not a PC‑Soft‑controls‑your‑deployment situation. Yes, the purchase of sessions is trust‑based. The Security Center runs locally, never contacts PC Soft,by DerekM - WinDev Forum
Hope this helps - it also had me confused. I don't think PC Soft rank among the world's best communicators. Two Key Clarifications ✔ 1. Security Center is for the developer to control deployments — not PC Soft The Security Center is: installed by the developer configured by the developer used only if the developer wants concurrency control not required for desktop aby DerekM - WinDev Forum
Well, it seems that some of you still don't get it. Even after describing the developers' sessions protocols, you are even yet conflating this with a runtime. When you create an exe - your exe will run anywhere - without a 'runtime license'. Perhaps you could start by figuring out how it would be possible otherwise ...by DerekM - WinDev Forum
Hi Mike, I have had a look at the US Facebook forum and the posts in question. In my opinion, these posts are unconvincing. And I also saw the post regarding the 'advice from PC Soft', and the best that I can conclude is that was also a miscommunication. I have also had confidential information from PC Soft, and although bound to not say what they said, I can categorically statby DerekM - WinDev Forum
Well, I use SAAS. It's basic, but a good starter pack. And easy to extend. No other way to deliver web apps. This is not to keep track of customers, but a way to deliver resources, security etc. - for your deployed web application(s). This is quite separate from the Security Center which is to track the Developer access to and essentially allow more connections than "seats". Inby DerekM - WinDev Forum
Hi nenjeb, I read these documents just now, thanks. At first glance, with English translation, this does look like some sort of intrusion. However, it seems that the French word utilisateur (user) is the scary part. "You must register the users of your application" is meant to mean - in English - "You must register the developers who use the SaaS IDE". This it seems,by DerekM - WinDev Forum
Hi Guenter, Not that I am a big fan of PC Soft, but I think you may have misinterpreted their gobbledegook licensing terminology. I believe that a valid session license is referring to developers - i.e. users of WinDev - not users of the resultant product - i.e. your application users. The user sessions - in plain English - should be read as developer sessions. Best regards, Derekby DerekM - WinDev Forum
I don't see any reference to runtime, anywhere. According to AI - PCS may have been considering 'runtime' - but it is apparently not a current licensing stipulation. Some quotes are mentioning "Sessions" - which are, apparently, the number of developers, the numbers of developers or machines that can be connected at any one time, as opposed to the number of actual sby DerekM - WinDev Forum
This angle is only relevant if you are, or intend to, migrate your applications to another platform. (For me, I am migrating one window at a time and, just keep on going with a hybrid solution.) If you have to rely on a dongle, and you only have one dongle for each product, you can still take a deep breath and stop worrying about it. The dongles will likely live long enough. If not, you can eiby DerekM - WinDev Forum
Hi Guenter, I had AI do an analysis of the likelihood of being able to get a replacement. It could not find any reference to replacement policy except in old documentation. In brief, it responded with different risk levels in getting a replacement - next 12 months - should be possible although not guaranteed : 1-2 years - 50/50 : 3+ years - pretty risky prospects - like, sorry, we don't sby DerekM - WinDev Forum
Simple question. I can continue with Version 27, and incrementally migrate my applications, but what happens if my dongle dies. Will PC Soft replace it for the normal replacement fee? Dead dongle = Dead business Does anyone have a clear understanding of this issue?by DerekM - WinDev Forum
QuotePC Soft In order to better support your development and offer you even more efficient solutions, we are changing our commercial approach. Until now, our solutions were offered as software as a unit subscription. From now on, we set up complete, coherent offers adapted to the size of your structure*, in the form of software suites and integrated services. This evolution has a clear objby DerekM - WinDev Forum