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Re: [WB27] problem running the project in debug - 28 days ago

That is correct. This is a Chromium thing and this (re)started as few months ago- can't remember the details just at the moment, but you will have to debug using Firefox. Your production stuff should still be OK with Edge/Chrome. Ask Copilot, it should have references to this. Regards, Derek

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: WD Breaking News - 5 weeks ago

Good points GSWD. I think you are right. Time to move on. However - I did pick up a cultural note from one of the French comments - and explained by AI. The real reference: “Sûr et certain” by Tonton David The line you quoted: “…et je suis sûr, sûr qu’on nous prend pour des cons, j’en suis certain !” comes from Tonton David’s 1991 song “Sûr et certain”. It’s a reggae‑raggamuffin tra

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: WD Breaking News - 5 weeks ago

They released an updated video 7 days ago, - Don't forge to read the 26 comments (uses a translator) - 26 comments - all negative,

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: WD Breaking News - 7 weeks ago

I will just add a short addendum to this conversation. As Al said, "As for them listening to customers, they never seemed to in the past". This move or proposal - not only highlights that they did indeed understand the general user concerns, and the explicit issues of concern regarding on-going access to the source code of deployed applications, but they did not care. Some AI sea

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: WD Breaking News - 7 weeks ago

Yep, a bit pricey too, Initial set-up approx. 2,000 EU + 1 year subscription approx. 2,000 EU (suite + WebDev + deploy) - INCLUDING THE 50% surcharge.. That's 4,000 Euro to start and 4,000 Euro per year - per licence That's approx. AUD6,700 per year, per licence.

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: WD Breaking News - 7 weeks ago

Hi Al So far - I can't see much information. But a machine translation of one of the comments does not look good. Seems the devil may indeed be in the detail ... 50% more? Per year?! Windev is greedy, they want you to get your money's worth! Well, this “security key” only allows you to use the “latest version” of the product you're subscribed to... So, forget abo

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: WD Breaking News - 7 weeks ago

Well, well, well As Al says - when I see more details ... The fundamental issue was always ownership of your own source code, and the ability to maintain it regardless. If this is truly addressed, then it is indeed good news. I could envision a circumstance where the single point of failure (SAAS License protocol) of precluding my software from increasing governmental control and certifi

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: WX and Supabase - 1 year ago

Hi Steven, No sorry. First time I ever heard of it, but it sure seems that there are lots of interesting options these days. Regards, Derek

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: WX and Supabase - 1 year ago

The PostgreSQL driver works great. (You can simply swap out anything in code with HChangeConnection.) In general - I use HFSQL for all of the basic database CRUD stuff, but have a number of APIs that rely on complex SQL joins, and there is no way the world that this can be accomplished with HFSQL.

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: Migration Strategies - Syncfusion - 1 year ago

Hi Al Yes, I'm always open to 2nd or more opinions, but in the end, you have to make your own decisions (imho - especially when it comes to doctors WinDev's original appeal to me was that I could focus on business functionality - not stupid low-level coding details. This Syncfusion approach appeals to me now because I work for myself - not PCSoft - and if I have to program - w

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: Migration Strategies - Syncfusion - 1 year ago

Syncfusion is a little pricey, but most of these things are, and if it's being utilised it's probably a fair price (as long as I can get the Community Licence See below (What copilot says) when I asked about lock-in. Anyway - this is the direction I have decided on - everyone will have something different - but the goal is to ensure that this lock-in thing is addressed. Alrea

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Migration Strategies - Syncfusion - 1 year ago

Following a recommendation to have a look at Syncfusion - I am already pretty much 'sold' on this platform. So - in a way - PCSoft may ultimately be doing us a favour by forcing the migration. For me - Syncfusion is pretty much ideal. Yes - a lot of money, time, and effort in migrating. However - it will also provide an opportunity to not just move away from PCSoft, but to mode

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: PC Soft's WinDev, WebDev & Mobile vs VisualStudio - 1 year ago

Hi Steven Thank you very much for that information. On your recommendation, I will start with Syncfusion. From a brief initial query - it seems that it may be more effective in achieving some of my goals that DevExpress (cheaper too). I intend to plan this migration over the next 6 months - not 'DO' the migration - just "plan it". One of my first jobs is to

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: PC Soft's WinDev, WebDev & Mobile vs VisualStudio - 1 year ago

Hi JP. Yes - had a quick look at XOJO - looks quite good. The Ultimate choice will depend on individual requirements. This has been around since 1997 (2013 in current format). An interesting fact here though: +450,000 users | millions of apps created. I may be wrong - but that seems to be a little bit more than the number of WinDev users.

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: PC Soft's WinDev, WebDev & Mobile vs VisualStudio - 1 year ago

I'm getting a bit ahead of myself (at least 6 months down the track) - but at least I can stop panicking. I've had a brief look at all the key techniques and technologies that I need to eventually escape the PCSoft black hole: - Everything that I need and am comfortably with in WinDev/WebDev (the SCM, Analysis, cross-platform, multi database targets, SaaS, RAD, shared code for Win

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: PC Soft's WinDev, WebDev & Mobile vs VisualStudio - 1 year ago

And now I have to investigate the DevExpress XAF Framework, There may indeed be "WinDev" without PCSoft !!! Are there any in-depth reviews of DevExpress perhaps comparing this environment with WinDev ? While there are reviews and comparisons of DevExpress and other tools, direct comparisons between DevExpress and WinDev are less common. However, here are some insights based o

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Re: PC Soft's WinDev, WebDev & Mobile vs VisualStudio - 1 year ago

I had forgotten about DevExpress. Lots of things can be done with free/open source - but much of the "ease of use" and feature rich WinForms stuff can all be done easily with DevExpress. NOT SO CHEAP - however no lock-in. (I checked this with copilot) : With DevExpress products - if you do not renew the annual subscription - then you are free to continue indefinitely with th

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: Saas Subcription - what are the response from european developers - 1 year ago

Well, I registered. The details are well laid out - congratulations. I am not holding my breath, though. My impression is that PC Soft have a somewhat insular approach, but maybe, just maybe, it might inspire someone in their organization to take a longer-term approach and understand that even large organizations have to assess the Business Continuity Risk of PC Soft's SAAS Model. F

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

AI is game changer - 1 year ago

I know the PC Soft latest versions are touting AI - but even without PC Soft - AI is a bit of a game-changer. I work alone - which is OK - but AI really helps in the absence of collaborative development. I just use Copilot which is built into Edge - and it is really really helpful. It gets some things wrong (like using Microsoft functions instead of WinDev) - but you get used to the nuances

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: Moving to a new IDE - Consider AI ? - 1 year ago

And also - plenty of tools and assistance. The primary fear of WinDev all these years ago was that is was a niche product and I have previously seen many of these disappear. (So not too surprised that it is happening again). anyway ... couple of tools suitable for Visual Studio ... Certainly! Here’s an overview of **EF Core** and **Blazor**, along with links to their official resources:

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: Moving to a new IDE - Consider AI ? - 1 year ago

Hi YogiYang Please keep us posted with some of these technologies. For me - I think Visual Studio might be the easiest move as I can already code in C# and .NET. Anyway - I asked AI (coPilot - not AL). The usefulness of these AI responses is always limited - as the default response to anything is 'Yes'. (So the question is more important than the answer.) Anyway - just th

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: PCSoft new policy - 1 year ago

Hi Fabrice, I would just like to extend my thanks for your extremely well reasoned, and well written post. Best regards, Derek

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

PC Soft's SAAS Business Model "Predatory" - DeepSeek - 1 year ago

Thanks Al (see thread PC Soft's WinDev, WebDev & Mobile vs VisualStudio) Just like to highlight the Final Thoughts from DeepSeek (via Al) - if case anyone missed it ... Final Thoughts The provider’s model is not just "unusual"—it’s predatory, holding developers’ work hostage to enforce subscription compliance. While SaaS is here to stay, mission-critical tools like I

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: PC Soft's WinDev, WebDev & Mobile vs VisualStudio - 1 year ago

I had a little chat with AI regarding this no-dongle thing!. Very circumspect response (of course) - but it really is a concern ... PC Soft have recently changed their business model, and will no longer sell - or support - their product (s) sold as a "lifetime" sale to enforce an annual "saas" subscription model. A number of long-term small developers are quite concerned

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: PC Soft's WinDev, WebDev & Mobile vs VisualStudio - 1 year ago

I had a bit of a think about this. The no dongle thing is a no-go for reasons that many have put forward. I have had a look at some .NET interface samples - and a bit of a chat with CoPilot. I think this is do-able. Of course, C# and .NET is not a low-code replacement - but if you already have developed something substantial in WinDev - it's not really such a big leap to write in

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

PC Soft's WinDev, WebDev & Mobile vs VisualStudio - 1 year ago

This is an old post - but in the 'Suggestions' list. Perhaps it should be included here in the main list as it may be quite topical now.

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: [WB 28] Why WX is not future-proof - 1 year ago

I'll start by reviewing a number of these old posts. I currently have WinDev and WebDev 27 - which I *was* going to update - but I don't think Version 27 is past it's use-by date yet. I already use a lot of .NET in conjunction with WinDev and WebDev - and I don't see any reason why new requirements can't just be tacked on to my core Version 27. I've got the Ana

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

Re: PC Soft's WinDev, WebDev & Mobile vs VisualStudio (revived topic) - 1 year ago

Might be a good time to revive some of these older posts.

by DerekM - WX-Products: Suggestions & Feature Requests

Re: .NET dotnet - Issues with latest Windows 11 - 1 year ago

I'll just leave this note here for future reference - in case anyone runs into similar issues. Gotta start re-writing a lot of stuff now (sheesh!) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Since the latest Windows updates - WinDev (Vers.27) no longer works with .Net Assemblies. WebDev (Vers.27) still works fi

by DerekM - WinDev Forum

(Resolved) .NET dotnet - Issues with latest Windows 11 - 1 year ago

The February 2025 Windows 11 update (version 24H2) has been reported to cause various compatibility issues. My problem was running 32-bit .NET DLLs in a 64-bit application causing compatibility and memory management issues. Took me a while to figure out what should have been obvious. ------------------------------------------ I resolved (most) of the PC Soft WinDev 27 .NET related

by DerekM - WinDev Forum