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Saas Subcription - what are the response from european developers
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PETER ZHOU
Saas Subcription - what are the response from european developers March 14, 2025 06:37AM |
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Re: Saas Subcription - what are the response from european developers March 16, 2025 10:17PM |
We need to make PC Soft understand that this model does not meet the developers expectations in terms of cost and business security.
A group is forming to gain more leverage against PC Soft : [freewlcode.com]
Feel free to sign up and show your support!
A group is forming to gain more leverage against PC Soft : [freewlcode.com]
Feel free to sign up and show your support!
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Re: Saas Subcription - what are the response from european developers March 16, 2025 11:08PM |
Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 79 |
Well, I registered.
The details are well laid out - congratulations.
I am not holding my breath, though. My impression is that PC Soft have a somewhat insular approach, but maybe, just maybe, it might inspire someone in their organization to take a longer-term approach and understand that even large organizations have to assess the Business Continuity Risk of PC Soft's SAAS Model.
Finally, I am also a bit disappointed, as it seems to me that WinDev/WebDev is a good platform, and that with proper steerage, they could have moved from a niche market to become a major development platform.
The details are well laid out - congratulations.
I am not holding my breath, though. My impression is that PC Soft have a somewhat insular approach, but maybe, just maybe, it might inspire someone in their organization to take a longer-term approach and understand that even large organizations have to assess the Business Continuity Risk of PC Soft's SAAS Model.
Finally, I am also a bit disappointed, as it seems to me that WinDev/WebDev is a good platform, and that with proper steerage, they could have moved from a niche market to become a major development platform.
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Re: Saas Subcription - what are the response from european developers March 17, 2025 06:43PM |
Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 170 |
Yep I agree
I can make things as one person quicker and better then 7 C# developers . And that is a fact !!!
webdev is good as well in the last verions !!! Itis fast running and developing is very very easy.
But the risk is to big a risk if it is only saas. If they do that then Iam going hold on to the dongles for my projects and allnew stuff will be done in a nes development IDE.
--Lianja seems to be nice ( but small company and not good for scaling I guess ).
--Or just javascript backed frot end ( maby a nice framwork )
-- PHP ?
--[www.b4x.com] vond ik via chat gpt ==> Is gratis lijkt ook we goed
I can make things as one person quicker and better then 7 C# developers . And that is a fact !!!
webdev is good as well in the last verions !!! Itis fast running and developing is very very easy.
But the risk is to big a risk if it is only saas. If they do that then Iam going hold on to the dongles for my projects and allnew stuff will be done in a nes development IDE.
--Lianja seems to be nice ( but small company and not good for scaling I guess ).
--Or just javascript backed frot end ( maby a nice framwork )
-- PHP ?
--[www.b4x.com] vond ik via chat gpt ==> Is gratis lijkt ook we goed
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Re: Saas Subcription - what are the response from european developers March 18, 2025 06:57PM |
Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 78 |
I'm repeating here as it's imporant :
Hello everybody,
I worked with Michel Garcia to create a web site with as much information about the situation as possible and some ideas for the future
Please feel free to have a look (Français, English, Espanol), to register for more information later, and to pass the link to all your contacts
The current URL is [wxinfo.kalanda.info]
I'm saying current because it's possible that PCSoft use lawyers to make it close down, so if any of you has a private webdev 2024 server to host a more secure version, please let me know
You can join us for that on contact@wxinfo.net
Fabrice Harari
International WinDev, WebDev and WinDev mobile Consulting
Free Video Courses, free WXShowroom.com, open source WXReplication, open
source WXEDM.
More information on [www.fabriceharari.com]
Hello everybody,
I worked with Michel Garcia to create a web site with as much information about the situation as possible and some ideas for the future
Please feel free to have a look (Français, English, Espanol), to register for more information later, and to pass the link to all your contacts
The current URL is [wxinfo.kalanda.info]
I'm saying current because it's possible that PCSoft use lawyers to make it close down, so if any of you has a private webdev 2024 server to host a more secure version, please let me know
You can join us for that on contact@wxinfo.net
Fabrice Harari
International WinDev, WebDev and WinDev mobile Consulting
Free Video Courses, free WXShowroom.com, open source WXReplication, open
source WXEDM.
More information on [www.fabriceharari.com]
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Re: Saas Subcription - what are the response from european developers March 19, 2025 01:52PM |
Registered: 4 years ago Posts: 12 |
Good afternoon, Fabrice.
With the utmost respect:
To avoid fear of PCSoft's lawyers shutting down your website, the simplest thing is not to publish anything illegal.
This is even more important when you're proposing to create a crowdfunding campaign.
On the other hand, there's something I don't like about WXFoundation.
And it's precisely the crowdfunding part.
Creating a tool that keeps older versions of a comercial product working may be fine.
But raising money for it seems unethical and even illegal.
In my opinion the best thing is to let the market evolve naturally.
Anyone who likes WM and needs the updated version should pay for it.
It will optimize his time and help WM continue being updated.
The subscription fee seems similar than dozens of other SAAS services solutions.
With the utmost respect:
To avoid fear of PCSoft's lawyers shutting down your website, the simplest thing is not to publish anything illegal.
This is even more important when you're proposing to create a crowdfunding campaign.
On the other hand, there's something I don't like about WXFoundation.
And it's precisely the crowdfunding part.
Creating a tool that keeps older versions of a comercial product working may be fine.
But raising money for it seems unethical and even illegal.
In my opinion the best thing is to let the market evolve naturally.
Anyone who likes WM and needs the updated version should pay for it.
It will optimize his time and help WM continue being updated.
The subscription fee seems similar than dozens of other SAAS services solutions.
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Re: Saas Subcription - what are the response from european developers March 19, 2025 06:26PM |
Admin Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 597 |
Thank you, Mr. Garrido!
To clarify things:
the WLanguge and WX-products are intellectual property of PC SOFT.
It's OK to make a program - using any other programming language / IDE - to translate your project's WLanguage source code (e.g. from GitHub) to any other programming environment.
It's definitely not OK using a WLanguage program for such a task. See the general conditions for using WX ('generators'). Imho it's a futile task to try to make a workalike to any WX product anyway. There are hundreds of man-years in it .. no one can replicate that within a year or so.
Kind regards,
Guenter Predl
gpredl@syspredl.at
To clarify things:
the WLanguge and WX-products are intellectual property of PC SOFT.
It's OK to make a program - using any other programming language / IDE - to translate your project's WLanguage source code (e.g. from GitHub) to any other programming environment.
It's definitely not OK using a WLanguage program for such a task. See the general conditions for using WX ('generators'). Imho it's a futile task to try to make a workalike to any WX product anyway. There are hundreds of man-years in it .. no one can replicate that within a year or so.
Kind regards,
Guenter Predl
gpredl@syspredl.at