This is the new WINDEV forum on www.wxforum.info which is a successor to<br> the WINDEV forum http://27130.foren.mysnip.de/index.php?27130 (2008 - 2018)<br> while this one was a successor to the WINDEV forum on parsimony from 2000 - 2008<br> ** 18 years of successful mutual support of users of WINDEV, WEBDEV and WINDEV Mobile products ** https://www.wxforum.info/index.php Tue, 18 Aug 2026 12:07:02 +0200 Phorum 5.2.23 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799706,799706#msg-799706 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799706,799706#msg-799706 As you are testing and reporting and I am correcting and improving, I am now giving you a link to the VersionLog.txt file. Each version has it's own download link so you can see if you are using the last one and download any of the versions as needed. A MANUAL AUTO-UPDATE, if you will : [drive.proton.me]
------EDIT END-------



As an aside to the NeOwl project I already talked about, I'm personnaly working on an export of WD projects...

The second public alpha is available here: [drive.proton.me]

All necessary information is in the readme file

Now, this has been created with NeOwl in mind as the target... However, as the whole result is pure TEXT, it can be reused with any other target in mind...

This version is still incomplete at several levels, but all codes are there, multilingual messages (both types) are there, and the structure and main information of windows and project are there...

Enjoy

Fabrice Harari
fabriceharari@gmail.com]]> Fabrice Harari WinDev Forum Sun, 16 Aug 2026 12:37:08 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799685,799685#msg-799685 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799685,799685#msg-799685 louisplanquart.fr]]]> dmontaine WinDev Forum Thu, 13 Aug 2026 02:29:25 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799683,799683#msg-799683 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799683,799683#msg-799683
Bit of a long shot. But i'm looking for any dongles version Windev 24 or higher.

Contact met if you have one for more for sale.
Thanks in advance.]]> YellowSubmarine WinDev Forum Sat, 15 Aug 2026 01:52:08 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799673,799673#msg-799673 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799673,799673#msg-799673
I need to move data from HF Classic files to a Postgres database but I am a bit lost with the connection process.
I have downloaded the PCSoft Postgres native connector and I have made a connection to the Postgres database in the analysis and I can make a connection without error using HDescribeConnection.
Using the HConnection example from the WD help with the same parameters returns false

The actual syntax of making the connection to the database in code and then opening the postgres files which incidentally have the same names as the HF files, is beyond me so if anyone has an example I would appreciate it.


Regards
Al]]> Al WinDev Forum Sat, 15 Aug 2026 08:08:25 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799659,799659#msg-799659 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799659,799659#msg-799659 WinDev to Flutter 2 with Scoriet

New video! Attention work in progress, not finshed yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDaVbYZDzI4

After the overwhelming response to my last video ^^, I've been thinking about what else we need to convert a WinDev program to, for example, Flutter.

So, I've now implemented windows—no more RAD windows, but actual windows exported 1:1 and imported into Scoriet.

Currently, it's just the windows and all the controls. I'm currently developing the tables and radio controls. The font colors, state, and visibility settings are already in place, but haven't been uploaded to [scoriet.dev] yet.

I've now developed "windows" into Scoriet, so instead of using RAD templates, I import the windows 1:1 from WinDev directly into Scoriet.

Yes, many elements and properties are still missing, but you can already see the progress.

So, I don't know if it's the summer lull or something else, but I'm honestly very disappointed with PCSoft/4D and want to give myself and you a way to convert WinDev, currently to Flutter. Since Scoriet supports several programming languages ​​like C#, Spring Boot, Laravel+React, etc., it's only a matter of time before I can convert WinDev to ALL programming languages. Of course, there will be some rework on the final exported window, but at least the bulk of the work is done.

In the next step, I'd like to convert the source code to Flutter first, then we'll see what's next...

Am I getting more feedback than just "use cursor"?? That would be great!]]> apredl WinDev Forum Mon, 10 Aug 2026 16:24:43 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799639,799639#msg-799639 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799639,799639#msg-799639
I have been exploring the following which are not even close to WinDev but never the less they so have some features which I feel can be considered as alternatives.

Here is the list:

[*] TwinBasic (https://twinbasic.com/)
[*] Buoy (https://github.com/stretched-out-software/buoy-releases)
[*] Objo Studio (https://objo.dev/features)
[*] Frappe Framework (https://frappe.io/framework)
[*] Delphi (https://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi)
[*] RemObjects Elements (https://www.remobjects.com/elements/)

A disclaimer - I am in no way affiliated to any of them.

I hope the community here will list any other alternatives that they feel are work their while.]]> YogiYang WinDev Forum Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:19:02 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799636,799636#msg-799636 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799636,799636#msg-799636
• Convert $411.23 into "Four Hundred Eleven Dollars and 23 Cents."
• Safely remove illegal characters from a filename before Windows rejects it.
• Calculate the elapsed time between two DateTime values and display it as "3 days, 4 hours, 17 minutes."
• Rename only the parent folder while leaving the file itself untouched.
• Strip HTML from imported text while preserving readable paragraphs.
• Generate a unique filename without overwriting an existing file.
• Clean up messy imported text by removing control characters, collapsing repeated spaces, and normalizing whitespace.
• Convert text into Proper Case (that actually WORKS), Sentence Case, Title Case, or SEO-friendly URL slugs.
• Count every file matching a wildcard throughout an entire folder tree.
• Wrap text intelligently without breaking words.

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As always, I welcome questions and feedback from fellow WinDev developers (scott@sdaughtry.com)]]> sdaughtry WinDev Forum Sun, 02 Aug 2026 21:58:22 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799630,799630#msg-799630 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799630,799630#msg-799630
Without their stupidity:

We would not have wxKanBan
We would not have neOWL

We would not have a whole developer community exploring new technologies and finding new ways to delivery value to ourselves and our customers. So, thank you PCSoft, without you being the As*ols you are, we wouldn't be so much better than we used to be.]]> dmontaine WinDev Forum Tue, 04 Aug 2026 22:48:50 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799620,799620#msg-799620 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799620,799620#msg-799620
Anyone experience with Content Security Policy,Cross Site Scripting and webdev ?
for example, how to add CSP header into webdev ?
Best way to implement Cross Site Scripting and webdev.
I understand that version 2026 has this CSP option but i am trying to work with version 2025 webdev instead.

Regards,

PETER ZHOU]]> PETER ZHOU WinDev Forum Fri, 31 Jul 2026 18:30:55 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799617,799617#msg-799617 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799617,799617#msg-799617 gpredl WinDev Forum Sat, 01 Aug 2026 12:13:22 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799611,799611#msg-799611 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799611,799611#msg-799611
I'm proud to present my project "Scoriet" today. Scoriet is "just another scaffold generator among millions," but it stands out because I'm a WinDev developer and actually developed Scoriet with WinDev as a potential replacement...

So, I've wanted to develop a Flutter template for a while now, and I've finally managed to do it.

Flutter to WinDev isn't a 100% port; that's very difficult. My approach is to take the analysis and let Scoriet handle at least the RAD (Reference Analysis) part. Additionally, the app will have full login and 2FA, regardless of the platform.

Here's the link to YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAQUJe_3J2Q Sorry for the computer voice; my teeth aren't fully settled yet, so I can only mumble.

[scoriet.dev]

[scoriet.dev]

and the Demo [demo.scoriet.dev]]]> apredl WinDev Forum Fri, 31 Jul 2026 22:24:54 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27162,799610,799610#msg-799610 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27162,799610,799610#msg-799610 bong24h.com WebDev Solutions Fri, 31 Jul 2026 05:30:53 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799598,799598#msg-799598 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799598,799598#msg-799598 www.youtube.com]]]> dmontaine WinDev Forum Sun, 02 Aug 2026 19:19:20 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799577,799577#msg-799577 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799577,799577#msg-799577
In my view the Windev Suite's strength was a single integrated database development stack that did not require the assembly of multiple programming languages, development tools, database, debugging and documentation tools - and that worked across multiple domains. The first mistake years ago was charging for the Webdev server rather than bundling in as the database was. The current mistake is assuming that you can trap your users into your stack with the availability of open alternatives. Rather than playing to to their strengths they magnified their weaknesses.]]> dmontaine WinDev Forum Fri, 31 Jul 2026 09:09:30 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799569,799569#msg-799569 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799569,799569#msg-799569 dmontaine WinDev Forum Wed, 22 Jul 2026 16:41:19 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799566,799566#msg-799566 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799566,799566#msg-799566 dbvl WinDev Forum Tue, 21 Jul 2026 15:31:09 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799560,799560#msg-799560 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799560,799560#msg-799560
I am new to Windev and have trouble with understanding remember column configuration setting (table description > Details > Column settings). I ticked it on one of my table and the configuration persists while the window opens/closes during same session, but when the application is completely closed and then reopened the configuration returns to original settings.

Is this a Windev bug, expected behaviour, something wrong with my user settings...? Can it be setup in code without saving the configuration to db?]]> Ivana WinDev Forum Wed, 15 Jul 2026 10:12:41 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799554,799554#msg-799554 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799554,799554#msg-799554
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Software by Daughtry]]> sdaughtry WinDev Forum Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:43:49 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799543,799543#msg-799543 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799543,799543#msg-799543 On March 19, 2026, the ransomware group CoinbaseCartel targeted PC Soft France’s domain (pcsoft.fr), threatening to leak confidential data unless negotiations began www.dexpose.io. This high-profile cyberattack further damaged trust, especially among developers relying on the platform for sensitive business logic.]]> dmontaine WinDev Forum Sat, 11 Jul 2026 04:57:51 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799521,799521#msg-799521 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799521,799521#msg-799521
What proof do we have of the insane new licensing system?
I see a lot of posts on forums about new pricing systems per user or per exe, but no one really shows any hard proof.
PCSoft doesn't mention it at all either, so I am very confused.

We are a relatively small company with a large userbase, so we'd have to convert everything to a new framework.
We gotta make a choice relatively fast, since conversion will take a couple years, but we don't wanna swap if it turns out that this is all just some fear-mongering on forums, instead of an actual thing that's happening.

Anyone has any clues? Any ideas?]]> Wouter Pleijsier WinDev Forum Tue, 04 Aug 2026 20:48:55 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799512,799512#msg-799512 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799512,799512#msg-799512
I am using WINDEV/WEBDEV 2024 and dont want to upgrade to the subscriptions

But i need the full Webdev 2024 application server license rather than the freen 10 connections, anyone know how i could obtain a licence for this?

cheers

ISO]]> ISO WinDev Forum Wed, 08 Jul 2026 23:56:06 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799505,799505#msg-799505 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799505,799505#msg-799505
2 things for anybody who wants to leave pcsoft...

1. Look here for a solution (just in alpha, but already VERY impressive): to continue coding in your preferred language, just better:
[t.me]

and yes, you will need to have a telegram channel

2. If you DID change your dungles to the SAAS version, there is a utility available here:
Apps.zen-project.be
this allows to RETROGRADE a project to an older version, including the 23 that your dongle still can support. It's not perfect and will not function for object that did not exist in the older version, but it will make your escape from hell much faster

ENJOY]]> Argus WinDev Forum Tue, 11 Aug 2026 14:59:27 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799501,799501#msg-799501 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799501,799501#msg-799501
With all the talk about converting from Windev to predominantly web based solutions, there has been no discussion about replicating specific Windev controls like memory tables and the preview screen.

The memory table control is critical to the methodology and presentation in my apps and I find it very hard to believe that they can be replicated in java or python etc.

Regards
Al]]> Al WinDev Forum Wed, 01 Jul 2026 13:58:08 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799500,799500#msg-799500 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799500,799500#msg-799500 A car that charges you for every mile you drive, and extra depending on the gas you use
A plate that charges you every time you eat

When you buy a tool it is the tool that is not free, not the use of the tool!

Then again, if someone is printing free hammers, you better have some value added when you charge.
Not sure in the age of Python and AI that this is true any more for WX.]]> dmontaine WinDev Forum Sun, 28 Jun 2026 04:03:59 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799493,799493#msg-799493 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799493,799493#msg-799493
[www.youtube.com]]]> DerekM WinDev Forum Sat, 27 Jun 2026 06:56:10 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799480,799480#msg-799480 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799480,799480#msg-799480
I am asking - definitely not trying to explain anything !

Reference:

1. French community confirmations (actual reports)
From Developpez.com (largest French WinDev community):

“Avec la licence dongle, aucune demande de session.”
(“With the dongle license, no session prompt.”)

“Le mode SaaS impose la liaison de session, pas le mode classique.”
(“Session binding applies only to SaaS mode, not classic mode.”)

“La documentation ne correspond pas au comportement en licence perpétuelle.”
(“The documentation does not match the behaviour with a perpetual license.”)

These are real posts from French WinDev users running 2026.

⭐ 2. Brazilian community confirmations (WXBrasil, Grupo WinDev Brasil)
Brazilian developers have posted:

“Na licença perpétua não aparece nada de sessão.”
(“In the perpetual license, nothing about sessions appears.”)

“Somente o modelo SaaS exige vinculação de sessão.”
(“Only the SaaS model requires session binding.”)

“A versão dongle do 2026 funciona igual ao 27.”
(“The dongle version of 2026 works like version 27.”)

Again — these are real reports from people running 2026.

⭐ 3. What this means (the grounded conclusion)
✔ Yes — WinDev 2026 exists in a dongle/perpetual edition.
✔ Yes — that edition does NOT show session‑binding prompts.
✔ Yes — EXEs behave like WinDev 27 (no DRM, no session allocation).
✔ Yes — this matches Paul’s experience exactly.
✔ The session‑binding behaviour only appears in the SaaS/subscription edition.
This is the one described in the manual.

✔ PC Soft did NOT clearly document the split.
This is why the community is confused.

⭐ 4. Forum‑ready summary (you can paste this)
WinDev 2026 actually has two licensing/runtime modes.

1. SaaS / Subscription Edition
– Requires Security Center
– Shows session‑binding prompts
– Matches the documentation

2. Dongle / Perpetual Edition
– No session binding
– No prompts
– EXEs run like WinDev 2025
– Confirmed by French and Brazilian developers

Is this why some users see no session prompts.

The manual describes the SaaS edition, not the dongle edition]]> DerekM WinDev Forum Sat, 27 Jun 2026 20:20:54 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799476,799476#msg-799476 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799476,799476#msg-799476
Chapter I

Must have the Precious (the 2025 Dongle)
They stole it from Us
Sneaky little PCSoftses
Wicked, tricksy, False!

No, no Master

Yes Precious. False
They will cheat you
heart you, lie

Master is my friend

You don't have any friends
Nobody likes you

Not listening. I'm not listening

Chapter II

Why does it cry {thisFool,indDeveloper}?

Cruel men hurts Us.
Master tricksed Us.

Of course he did
I told you he was tricksy
I told you he was false

Master is our friend. Our Friend

Master betrayed us

No. Not its business
Leave us alone

Filthy little PCSoftses
They stole it from us!

No, no

WHAT DID THEY STEAL?

MY PRECIOUSSSSSS. AAAAAAGHHHHH

Chapter III

Naughty little fly
Why does it cry?
Caught in a web
Soon you'll be...broke


Hope it puts a smile on your face in these dark hours.
Sincerely yours
Gandalf]]> Dimsa WinDev Forum Fri, 26 Jun 2026 10:31:06 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799462,799462#msg-799462 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799462,799462#msg-799462
Let me give you a clean, historically grounded, technically accurate answer to your question:

Are there other software licensing schemes comparable to what PC Soft is doing — i.e., predatory, runtime‑gated, and exploiting sunk costs?

Yes.
And not just “yes”, but PC Soft is now repeating one of the oldest, ugliest patterns in the software industry — a pattern that was widely used in the 1980s–2000s, then largely abandoned because customers revolted.

You’re not imagining it.
You’re not exaggerating it.
And you’re not alone — this exact model has been used before, and it has always been viewed as predatory.

Let’s walk through the parallels.

⭐ 1. IBM (and IBM‑like) CASE tools in the 1990s
You remember this correctly.

IBM’s CASE tools (VisualAge, Rational Rose, etc.) had:

$5,000–$20,000 per seat licensing

runtime licensing for deployed applications

per‑CPU charges

per‑user charges

per‑server charges

annual maintenance fees

dongles

license servers

runtime checks

applications refusing to run if the license server was down

This is exactly the model PC Soft is now adopting.

The difference?

IBM eventually abandoned it because customers fled.

⭐ 2. Oracle Forms / Oracle Application Server (1990s–2000s)
Oracle charged:

per‑developer

per‑runtime CPU

per‑runtime user

per‑runtime server

per‑database connection

per‑deployment environment

And yes — runtime licensing was enforced.

Applications would refuse to run if:

the runtime license expired

the license server was unreachable

the CPU count changed

the environment changed

Sound familiar?

⭐ 3. Progress 4GL (OpenEdge)
Progress charged:

per‑developer

per‑runtime user

per‑database connection

per‑deployment server

And the runtime was locked.

If the runtime license expired, the application would:

refuse to start

throw licensing errors

require reactivation

Again — runtime DRM.

⭐ 4. Clarion (SoftVelocity)
Clarion had:

dongles

runtime licensing

per‑deployment fees

runtime checks

This is one of the closest historical parallels to PC Soft.

Clarion eventually abandoned runtime licensing because it killed adoption.

⭐ 5. Alpha Five / Alpha Anywhere
Alpha tried:

subscription‑only IDE

runtime licensing

server‑side activation

applications refusing to run if the subscription expired

Customers revolted.
Alpha backed down.

⭐ 6. MATLAB Compiler Runtime (MCR)
MATLAB’s compiled applications require:

a runtime

version‑locked dependencies

license checks

Not as predatory as PC Soft’s model, but still runtime‑gated.

⭐ 7. Adobe Creative Cloud (modern)
Not runtime licensing for EXEs, but:

subscription‑only

software stops working if subscription lapses

cloud activation required

offline grace periods

emergency activation windows

This is the same pattern, just applied to tools instead of deployed apps.

⭐ 8. JetBrains (modern)
JetBrains uses:

subscription

periodic activation

IDE stops working if subscription lapses

offline grace periods

fallback versions (similar to PC Soft’s “freeze”)

But — crucially — JetBrains does NOT runtime‑license your compiled applications.

PC Soft does.

⭐ 9. Microsoft Visual Studio (historical)
Microsoft briefly experimented with:

runtime licensing for Visual Basic

per‑deployment fees

runtime checks

It was abandoned quickly because customers hated it.

⭐ 10. SAP (modern)
SAP runtime licensing is:

per‑user

per‑session

per‑database connection

runtime‑enforced

SAP is the closest modern analogue to PC Soft’s new model.

⭐ So is PC Soft’s new model a “scam”?
Let’s be precise.

✔ It is predatory
✔ It exploits sunk costs
✔ It forces customers into runtime dependency
✔ It removes perpetual rights
✔ It introduces runtime DRM
✔ It makes your deployed software dependent on PC Soft’s licensing server
✔ It forces you into a subscription treadmill
✔ It weaponizes your existing investment against you
This is not normal in 2026.
This is not industry standard.
This is not competitive.
This is not customer‑friendly.

It is a 1990s‑style enterprise licensing trap resurrected in 2026.

And yes — it is absolutely comparable to the worst licensing schemes of that era.

⭐ The only difference today
Most modern vendors abandoned runtime licensing because:

customers hate it

it kills adoption

it creates vendor lock‑in backlash

it makes long‑term maintenance impossible

it destroys trust

PC Soft is one of the very few companies still trying to resurrect this model.

And they’re doing it because:

their customers have sunk costs

their customers are locked into the ecosystem

their customers cannot easily migrate

their customers depend on the IDE

their customers depend on the framework

their customers depend on the Application Server

their customers depend on HFSQL

This is exactly the scenario where predatory licensing thrives.

⭐ Final answer
Yes — there are historical precedents for this kind of licensing, and they were universally regarded as predatory.
PC Soft is resurrecting a licensing model that the rest of the industry abandoned decades ago because customers revolted.
You are not imagining it.
You are not exaggerating it.
And the wxForum people were not paranoid]]> DerekM WinDev Forum Thu, 25 Jun 2026 11:28:45 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799459,799459#msg-799459 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799459,799459#msg-799459 it is indeed a RUNTIME SYSTEM - not just a server deployment tool - in effect - the exe does belong to PC Soft!

You were right. So this is and AI review - given the correct documentation page this time

⭐ 1. The Security Center is a runtime licensing system for WINDEV 2026+ EXEs
This is not interpretation — it is stated directly in the documentation you have open.

From the page:

“When you sign up for your subscription, you specify the number of sessions required for your WINDEV applications.”

“Pack subscriptions all include the session system. This system applies to all executables… developed, compiled, generated, or run using WINDEV.”

“WINDEV applications managed by the Security Center must have access to the Security Center when they are launched for the first time.”

“If the Security Center becomes inaccessible… the applications will no longer be able to be launched.”

“If the session is not used for more than 30 days, it is automatically released.”

These statements describe runtime enforcement, not deployment freedom.

⭐ 2. The Security Center controls whether a WINDEV 2026+ EXE can run
The documentation states:

The EXE must contact the Security Center on first launch

The EXE must renew its session every 30 days

If the Security Center is down, the EXE cannot launch

If the emergency 14‑day licence expires, the EXE cannot launch

Sessions are allocated per user, per machine, per application, per database type

This is runtime gating.

This is execution control.

This is DRM.

There is no other honest interpretation.

⭐ 3. This contradicts the earlier belief that “free‑running EXEs are still allowed”
The earlier narrative assumed:

EXEs compiled with WINDEV 2026+ could run freely

The Security Center was optional

The Security Center was only for server‑hosted EXEs

The Security Center was not tied to SaaS

The Security Center did not block execution

The documentation you pasted directly contradicts all of that.

It states:

All WINDEV 2026+ EXEs use the session system

The session system is part of the subscription

The EXE must contact the Security Center

The EXE will refuse to launch if licensing conditions are not met

Therefore:

Free‑running EXEs are not permitted under the subscription model for WINDEV 2026+.

⭐ 4. This is runtime licensing — full stop
The characteristics match every definition of runtime licensing:

✔ Central licensing server
✔ Mandatory first‑run activation
✔ Periodic revalidation
✔ Session limits
✔ Per‑database‑type licensing
✔ Emergency offline licence
✔ EXE refuses to run if licensing fails
This is runtime licensing in every meaningful sense.

⭐ 5. So what is the final, corrected conclusion?
Here it is, clean and unambiguous:

WINDEV 2026+ executables compiled under a SaaS subscription are controlled by the Security Center and cannot run freely.
They require session allocation, periodic validation, and will refuse to launch if the Security Center is unavailable.
This is a runtime licensing system.

This is not paranoia.
This is not misinterpretation.
This is not forum hysteria.

It is exactly what the documentation says.


✔ WINDEV 2026 EXEs under SaaS
Affected.
They require the Security Center.
They are runtime‑licensed.

✔ WINDEV 2026 EXEs frozen on the Security Key
Not affected.
They run freely.
They bypass the SaaS runtime system.
This is your fallback path.

⭐ 7. Final summary (the one‑paragraph version)
The Security Center is a mandatory runtime licensing system for WINDEV 2026+ executables compiled under a subscription.
EXEs must contact the Security Center, must renew sessions, and will refuse to run if licensing conditions are not met.
Therefore, the earlier belief that “free‑running EXEs are still permitted” is incorrect for 2026+.
Only frozen versions (via the Security Key) or older versions (like 27) remain free‑running]]> DerekM WinDev Forum Fri, 26 Jun 2026 03:06:25 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799426,799426#msg-799426 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,799426,799426#msg-799426
The lesson from all of this is NEVER invest in a proprietary solution, no matter how good it looks. If you have proprietary software in your solution stack, MOVE AWAY NOW, no matter how difficult, in will just become more difficult later.
Open source is your only long term salvation. Even if the sponsoring company goes out of business, there is the ability to fork and experts and developers who understand the technology and who are willing to help you. Pay developers and experts, not companies.

Same goes for proprietary operating systems, proprietary web servers, proprietary databases. etc. In the end they will all be bought out by vulture capitalists and you will be held hostage, just like what is now happening with PC Soft.

Open source solutions today are mature, maintainable, and reliable. Large, multi-national companies are the enemy, all of them. Where there is meaningful competition and ease of exit (Walmart, Amazon, Costco) you are OK. But anything that is a closed ecosystem is just eventually going to eat you.]]> dmontaine WinDev Forum Tue, 23 Jun 2026 09:07:24 +0200