Windev Forum - Off Topic Discussion / Ranting Corner

TSPlus - Subscriptions done correctly

Al — Sat, 26 Apr 2025 10:31:13 +0200

Hello All,

I am a huge fan of TSPlus and use it to run my AWS EC2 servers.

They have just announced a subscription model for their software and their process is exactly how PCSoft should have done it.

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TSPlus
Starting May 5, 2025, TSplus will offer a subscription
option for our product licensing.
But before we go any further - this does not change anything about your current license.
Your permanent license is still fully valid, supported, and remains a core part of our
product offerings.
Why subscriptions?
Some of our clients have asked for more flexible options, especially for short-term
projects, startups, or businesses with evolving needs. Our new subscription plans are
designed to meet those needs - as an additional choice, not a replacement.
Here’s what you can count on:
• Your current permanent license remains active and supported.
• We will continue to offer and sell permanent licenses as usual.
• Subscriptions are simply another way to start or expand with TSplus, if and when
you choose.

I appreciate this is advertising but it just struck a chord with me as to how business should operate.

Regards
Al

any plan to support HarmonyOS

ccc2 — Tue, 17 Sep 2024 18:44:37 +0200

Hi ,

any plan for windev mobile to support HarmonyOS?

Re: Anyone in the Forum using any Low Code tool(s) ?

YogiYang — Sat, 12 Aug 2023 07:15:08 +0200

Hi,

Thanks for your inputs.

Learning Dart may not be mandatory anymore as FlutterFlow has integrated AI that will generate necessary source as and when needed.

My primary trial with FlutterFlow for building web apps did not go well as the performance is unacceptable especially when the amount of data is large. Probably may be because I am still new to it and don't know how to fine tune it for performance. But when it come to mobile apps the performance is really good.

My experience with Frappe Framework is quite good as I know enough Python to get things done. But overall after I crossed the basic learning curve my experience is pleasant. Unfortunately being 100% open source they do not have enough tutorials for onboarding new developers.

Most of the other frameworks are based on NodeJS and ReactJS.

In one other forum someone suggested me to check out GeneXus which is powered by .NET. Will check it when I get enough free time.

TIA

Re: Anyone in the Forum using any Low Code tool(s) ?

gpredl — Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:12:56 +0200

Hi, FlutterFlow offers a small portion of Flutter's range of widgets only. There's a number of stories on Medium comparing Flutter and FlutterFlow. Read them. Mostly not in favour of FlutterFlow. Using Flutter's Dart language, you have to become "fluent" in it which will take about 6 months of using and learning, 4-6 hours per day. Maybe, I'm doing that somewhen in the far future. For the time being, I'm content with WINDEV's development speed ....

Anyone in the Forum using any Low Code tool(s) ?

YogiYang — Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:32:40 +0200

Hello,

Recently I have been exploring various low code tools as an alternative to WX for building mobile and web apps.

I am interested in knowing if anyone is using any such tool(s) for building mobile and web apps?

Personally I am currently using these:

FlutterFlow for building Mobile and simple Web Apps. (https://flutterflow.io/)
Noodl for building complex responsive Web Apps. (https://www.noodl.net/)
AppSmith for building back end Admin Panels for various mobile apps. (https://www.appsmith.com/)
Opensource Lowcoder for building back end Admin Panels for various mobile apps. (https://www.lowcoder.cloud/)
100% Opensource Frappe Framework for building any kind of Web Apps and Web Sites. But unfortunately it requires some coding in Python and JavaScript. (https://frappeframework.com/)

From these only FlutterFlow generates source code of the app built in it.

TIA

Re: An interesting alternate Dev Tool with features similar to WX

gpredl — Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:01:38 +0200

Hi issah,

b4x is windev etc for the poor guys. They say, it is a continuation of Visual Basic ... and its free. Same, even better is Flutter / Dart it's a free multiplatform runtime & language. But you have to learn new paradigms.

Re: An interesting alternate Dev Tool with features similar to WX

mixgh — Fri, 22 Apr 2022 02:52:17 +0200

Hi,

Did anyone use any of the potential alternative tools listed here? I know liveapps is dead but lianja and limnor still seem to running strong.

Just my curiosity running wild.

regards

issah

Re: Use with external languages

gpredl — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:00:53 +0200

ERROR, ERROR! This forum is for PC Soft's WX-Products. WINDEV is a 5GL product. This forum is NOT what you thought!

Re: Use with external languages

gpredl — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:00:05 +0200

ERROR! This forum is for PC Soft's WX-Products. WINDEV is a 5GL product. This forum is NOT what you thought!

Re: Use with external languages

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Re: WX Programming

Argus — Mon, 31 Aug 2020 14:04:26 +0200

and I invite everybody reading this to stay here, so as not to dilute once more the number and quality of answers by creating YET ANOTHER forum, channel, page, group, wall or whatever the current fad is

Re: WX Programming

WX_Programming — Sun, 30 Aug 2020 15:58:06 +0200

[www.facebook.com]

WX Programming

WX_Programming — Sun, 30 Aug 2020 15:56:23 +0200

Dear fans of WX tools

I invite you to join the FB Page WX Programming to share experiences and help each other.

I think that in this way we communicate faster and easier

Best regards

Re: What's wrong with PC SOFT?

wtmullican — Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:34:24 +0200

Did this ever get fixed, I am using v22 and it is still happening!! I agree with Thomas, this is crazy. The created and modify also does not fix the issue.

3 months to create a fully functioning app

RobertLeo — Wed, 30 Oct 2019 09:26:17 +0100

Hello guys, I just need to post this because I feel the need to rant/shout to the skies

Imagine this, given a deadline of 3 months to create 2 large scale apps to be used in one of the most hectic industries, the team consists of 5 people, 3 interns, 1 full time employee, and me the project manager who was assigned midway, our collective experience in windev mobile? Absolutely zero, to make things worse than they are, the interns turns out to have zero knowledge about design, programming, or even algorithms despite majoring in Mobile apps development in one of the "most known university for IT in the country" and at every corner of the project issues keeps on appearing and the deadline is approaching very fast, with our progress being incredibly barebones that runs incredibly slowly and buggy...

I am very tired at this point...

Re: WX COMMUNITY?

Fabrice Harari — Tue, 05 Jun 2018 19:36:48 +0200

and the most humble too....

:D

Re: WX COMMUNITY?

GuenterP — Tue, 05 Jun 2018 19:19:32 +0200

Hi, no problem, any help to wx is welcome - even if one has to find one's way using translation software ....

WX COMMUNOTY

theboss — Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:50:37 +0200

This is the best wx community

FEKWX

Re: Use with external languages

Mansi Rao — Mon, 27 Nov 2017 12:39:10 +0100

Here is my (mostly) comprehensive list of tools I use for development, either at home or work. It’s like Scott Hanselman’s, but focused almost purely on development, with a couple of extras. While you’re at it, go check his out. All opinions are my own and are not bought or sold.

The Main Stuff

Visual Studio – king of IDEs and the essential tool for .NET devs everywhere. Not much else to say except that it has a great starting toolset for any developer and amazing plugin support. The Community edition gives the masses the power of the Professional SKU, for free. Simply amazing and getting better with every release.

(Full Article)

These set of tools can be used as reference as some of the external languages that help you with other web dev tools.

Re: great tool as well

Mansi Rao — Mon, 27 Nov 2017 12:33:12 +0100

That was very well explained video. I appreciate Allard..

Team work

GuenterP — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 13:36:44 +0200

[medium.freecodecamp.org]

Read and enjoy! I believe, every of us has met such a guy during their coding life ....

Re: New and stable Android Apps developement tool

Yogi Yang — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 17:23:42 +0200

André,

Not necessarily. Android, Libre Office, FPC, etc are open source free like in free beer but are they peanuts?

Not they are not. In fact I just completed a small Android application it B4A. Yes there are a few things that I had to learn as WM shields a developer from the need to understand the underlying Mobile OS which is not the case when it comes to using B4A.

HTH

Yogi Yang

Re: New and stable Android Apps developement tool

André Labuschagné — Thu, 27 Jul 2017 19:31:54 +0200

Hi Yogi

You are dreaming. You pay peanuts you get monkeys. It is a universal rule.

It has been around for a long time. Most have been there done that got the T shirt and thrown it away.

Cheers
André

[WX22] WTF - Search window

Al — Mon, 03 Jul 2017 12:32:57 +0200

Hello All

Just made a start in V22 and the Search window header now takes 7 lines of stupid navigation to accomplish what used to be done in two lines. Hopefully this is just something odd in my setup and it can be wrestled into the old format ?
I am not so blind that I need a "Find" button that runs the entire width of the search screen.

Hunting down how to setup the code edit fonts was also an pointless exercise.

Happy to contribute to a fund to tattoo "If it ain't broke... " onto the fore heads of PCSoft style geniuses.

Regards
Al

New and stable Android Apps developement tool

Yogi Yang — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 16:08:11 +0200

Hello,

I just got my hands on Android apps development tool called B4A (Basic4Android) from b4x.com. It just cost US $60 to own a license version!

It is really very simple, needs quite a bit of knowledge about Android development. Is extremely flexible and plethora of libraries for various specialized activities that are available only with the paid version.

It tends to create very compact apk files.

Do check it out..!!!

It also has iOS version called B4i. One unique thing about this is that one can develop iOS apps in windows and compile the software using a cloud server and get ready to run iOS app!!! It just cost US $60 to own a license version!

Free B4J is also an interesting JAVA based application development platform and the Web Server feature is just mind blowing and it supports Materialize CSS.

Check it out at: [www.b4x.com]

Free B4R is another mind blowing tool to develop IoT apps for Arduino and ESP8266 boards.

HTH

Yogi Yang

Require Skilled WB developer

ChristoK! — Sat, 27 May 2017 15:45:42 +0200

I need someone skilled (I'll settle for competent - yes I am that desperate) for help with finishing off a WB project.

There are 3rd party api involved but only insofar as getting permission to send stuff to them (facebook wall, twitter feed, YouTube channel).

Please let me know if you are interested / able to assist me with this.

Regards C!!!

[OT] Code editing fonts

Al — Mon, 01 May 2017 05:44:57 +0200

Hello All

The other day the font in the code editor of Windev suddenly changed on the screen but not in the Windev code edit options which were still showing the original font. I was reading an article in the Calibre reader on another screen so I imagine that it was what caused the font change in the open Windev editor - yes I multitask sometimes :)

The different display font that appeared onscreen looked to be a variation on a courier font and wasn't that bad and it prompted me to look into the aspect of what would be the best font to use when editing code.

I had never bothered much before about the code font, which is interesting seeing as how I spend much of my day and night working with it.
There are a number of articles on the web and there are quite a variety of fonts available that are specifically for editing code. For me it came down initially to whatever was natively available in Windows so the main options were Lucida, Consolas and Android Sans Mono, but I am going to check out some of the free coding fonts available.
[speckyboy.com].

I am currently trying the Android Sans Mono and to me, it does look better than Lucida, which I think is the Windev default.

So the reason I am posting is to suggest that maybe some benefit could be gained by selecting a code editing font that might be more aesthetically pleasing or more functional in terms of clarity.

Regards
Al

Re: New competition for WinDev?

GuenterP — Wed, 29 Mar 2017 10:25:58 +0200

LIGHTSWITCH WHAT?

Hi,
just to tell you how it goes: Lightswitch has been discontinued by Microsoft, the recommendation is not use Lightswitch for any new projects!

The problem with Microsoft is that they are not able to / interested in supporting something labeled "4GL". There are patents and there is a vast number of 3rd party software makers who are - at least partially - engaged in making things which would be useless if a true 4GL came from Microsoft.

Re: Off Topic - Anyone used LiveCode?

GuenterP — Wed, 29 Mar 2017 10:16:32 +0200

Hi Stefan, definitely YES!

At least in the same way LiveCode does i.e. by using drivers / DLLs to attach to sensors, switches and all hardware. Most probably even much better because Wx has quite a number of binary functions and a vast number of variable types.

Re: New competition for WinDev?

Yogi Yang — Wed, 29 Mar 2017 06:08:10 +0200

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StanleyBarnett

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Wx products contain lots of add-ons out of the box, if you need additional functionality for VS you have to buy controls and supporting programs from 3rd parties which gives you the well known problems with different versions.
Having this super large add-on 3rd party eco-system is where Visual Studio really shines over PCSoft simply because they lack 3rd party vendor support. PCSoft is too proprietary in this area which has discouraged the 3rd party marketplace.

This will never happen. I mean PCSoft will never open up for third party development because if they do then they will not be able to sell their new version easily every year as what they are offering will be (may be) available from third party at a throw away price or free!

Regards,

Yogi Yang