I just found out about this movement and thought it may interest a few of us here. https://freewlcode.com/en/index.html https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798690#msg-798690 Wed, 20 May 2026 13:09:08 +0200 Phorum 5.2.23 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798982#msg-798982 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798982#msg-798982
Quote: For now, we stick to what we have - using dongles with 2025.

Before I go subscription, I want to make sure that the company survives this change (others have failed because of this).]]> Doyle WinDev Forum Mon, 17 Nov 2025 17:43:27 +0100 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798975#msg-798975 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798975#msg-798975 No a la Renovación.

Please, respect the forum's language! It's English.

I bought the 2025 and was met with this bucket of cold water, so I know not to buy the license, and to top it off, I bought all three. Anyway, I'll stay here unless these people change their policy. We can't pay every month for nothing, because that's what you'll get at the end of the day: if you don't pay, you get nothing.
No to renewal.]]> Nestor Riquelme WinDev Forum Fri, 07 Nov 2025 13:57:41 +0100 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798956#msg-798956 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798956#msg-798956 -------------------------------------------------------
> I am going to try Lazarus (or the Code Typhon
> spin) to rewrite an existing WinDev app. For the
> third time in my career the company controlling a
> tool has caused major problems with their changes.
> I really want to leave proprietary tools behind.


Practically this is do able but it would require loads of development time.

To shorten development time I would like to suggest that you take a close look at following sets of components/libraries:

- TMS Component collection (http://www.tmssoftware.com/), this is a commercial offering
- ZeosDB (https://sourceforge.net/projects/zeoslib/), this is opensource
- mORMot (https://synopse.info/forum/viewforum.php?id=24), this is opensource
- VirtualTreeView (https://www.jam-software.com/virtual-treeview/features.shtml), this is opensource, here is link to its Git repo - [github.com]
- TurboPack (https://github.com/TurboPack)

]]> YogiYang WinDev Forum Wed, 29 Oct 2025 07:02:05 +0100 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798953#msg-798953 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798953#msg-798953 dmontaine WinDev Forum Tue, 28 Oct 2025 02:18:08 +0100 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798951#msg-798951 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798951#msg-798951 Same as Code Typhon. Just for fun.
Database applications in the Windev style are very far from serious or a competitor to Windev.
Just like Mr. Predl said. I can't wait to see that application in these tools.

Good luck.]]> IsmirB WinDev Forum Sat, 25 Oct 2025 19:04:47 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798950#msg-798950 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798950#msg-798950
thank you! Could you keep us informed about your progress with Lazarus? Btw, Mistral KI recommended Lazarus as #6 for switching from WINDEV.]]> gpredl WinDev Forum Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:43:03 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798949#msg-798949 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798949#msg-798949 dmontaine WinDev Forum Sat, 25 Oct 2025 00:39:46 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798944#msg-798944 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798944#msg-798944 gpredl WinDev Forum Wed, 22 Oct 2025 08:37:57 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798942#msg-798942 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798942#msg-798942 dmontaine WinDev Forum Wed, 22 Oct 2025 07:22:29 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798938#msg-798938 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798938#msg-798938
Been considering training my old brain to learn something new as suggested by considering the MS route via Visual Studio or an open source route with HTML+CSS+React on the front end, and PHP with Laravel on the backend. One of the things I find not talked about much is reporting and access control....especially reporting. Does anyone have experience integrating reports into web apps? How easy is it to limit menu options based on user settings?

Thanks
issah]]> mixgh WinDev Forum Tue, 21 Oct 2025 05:57:14 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798925#msg-798925 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798925#msg-798925 I investigate Dart/Flutter for now. Who knows? :)-D]]> IsmirB WinDev Forum Tue, 14 Oct 2025 08:46:05 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798924#msg-798924 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798924#msg-798924 Allard WinDev Forum Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:40:32 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798912#msg-798912 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798912#msg-798912 Version 2025 still has many parts from the help file that are not translated into English.
The AI ​​writes non-existent WL commands.

But the SAAS rules seem to remain unchanged.
As long as you pay, you can pretend to be a developer.

Khm !]]> IsmirB WinDev Forum Sat, 04 Oct 2025 08:46:15 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798801#msg-798801 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798801#msg-798801 SebastienH WinDev Forum Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:55:04 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798775#msg-798775 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798775#msg-798775
Correct. And all other compilers we use.]]> André Labuschagné WinDev Forum Thu, 29 May 2025 16:05:55 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798773#msg-798773 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798773#msg-798773 dmontaine WinDev Forum Thu, 29 May 2025 06:37:17 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798771#msg-798771 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798771#msg-798771
>>I still have issue with the new licensing, but as a tool I am inclined to stick with it.

Agreed.

We have about 10 languages in our stack right now including Delphi, C++, C#, Java etc - you will have to go a long way to beat WX for Web and Mobile and some Desktop. We are using WebDev components and Clarion AnyScreen and consider that we have completely conquered speed and granularity and fluidity for the web. We are back in contention.

I have forty-two years of software development under the belt. Be very careful before jumping ship. It may just be down a cliff. RAD is critical these days. As is scalability and speed of execution. WX is in and among the best on the planet right now.

Still a bit miffed about the new licensing stuff though. Losing access to code is a real issue.

For now, we stick to what we have - using dongles with 2025.

Cheers
André]]> André Labuschagné WinDev Forum Wed, 28 May 2025 23:52:09 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798754#msg-798754 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798754#msg-798754 dbvl WinDev Forum Fri, 23 May 2025 10:58:21 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798732#msg-798732 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798732#msg-798732
I still have issue with the new licensing, but as a tool I am inclined to stick with it.

Rgds
Paul]]> pauly139 WinDev Forum Mon, 12 May 2025 02:00:04 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798730#msg-798730 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798730#msg-798730 -------------------------------------------------------
> I would advise developers who are thinking of
> moving away from WX, to go with more COMPLETE and
> mainstream tools.
> MS Visual Studio / C#/.net core and Delphi are

I agree with what you suggested]]> Mustafa_DZ WinDev Forum Sat, 10 May 2025 13:24:35 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798729#msg-798729 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798729#msg-798729 Xojo is NOT in the same category as WX - nor is B4x
It is great and bomb proof for Android and iOS/iPad apps - complimentary to bigger desktop or web apps.
You cannot make a decent ERP with Xojo (or B4x), nobody says that ...

I would advise developers who are thinking of moving away from WX, to go with more COMPLETE and mainstream tools.
MS Visual Studio / C#/.net core and Delphi are worth considering

Regards
Steven Sitas]]> SteveSitas WinDev Forum Sat, 10 May 2025 11:32:32 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798727#msg-798727 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798727#msg-798727
Personally I have build 8 commercial app in Xojo and the version that I currently use for maintenance is Xojo 2023 r2.

If you want to continue with Xojo then please do check out available Plugins. You will definitely need to buy a few.

There are many issues with Xojo like...

For example the Print Engine provided in Xojo is a joke. I had to ask the client to purchase OmegaBundle which includes Valentine Reports ADK to get descent printing quality and features.

It lacks many controls that we are used to in WX ecosystem.

I have two more suggestions and that is Rem Object's Elements compilers and B4X (B4J, B4A, B4i).

One final suggestion!! Do not take any decision under pressure or in haste. Spend some time checking out all options that are available in the market from competition and try them out.

Note: There are loads of developers leaving the Xojo ecosystem.]]> YogiYang WinDev Forum Sat, 10 May 2025 09:52:00 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798721#msg-798721 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798721#msg-798721
1. Flexbox / Responsive behavior
2. SCM Version control
3. Network capable deployment with automatic updates

Have I just missed these features, or has anyone found workarounds...

Rgds
Paul]]> pauly139 WinDev Forum Tue, 06 May 2025 03:47:17 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798711#msg-798711 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798711#msg-798711
Cheers]]> JP WinDev Forum Sun, 27 Apr 2025 16:47:03 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798710#msg-798710 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798710#msg-798710 Probably Yogi is referring to older versions of Xojo - there was a lot of criticism about bugs, the WEB API v1 and the missing Android version in older versions.
Since the WEB API v2 and the release of a stable Android version I don't hear and most importantly I don't see any of what Yogi talks about.
Of course it misses some of the features the newer frameworks offer, for say Android, but so do ALL the development environments that Yogi has suggested from time to time: from Delphi, to Genexus and so on ...

And something that is very important is the cost. I for sure do not want to pay thousand of dollars for runtime costs _OR_ work with very limited, non supported Open Source versions of the products.

Xojo may not be in the same class as Windev - none of what Yogi has suggested from time to time is comparable to WX - but other than your time it asks nothing to try it yourself.

* btw M$ tools - especially now with .net core - are also worth considering.

Regards
Steven Sitas]]> SteveSitas WinDev Forum Sun, 27 Apr 2025 16:29:52 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798708#msg-798708 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798708#msg-798708
I have some real doubts about your comments. Xojo has been around since 1997 (28 years), they have an IDE for all major platforms and can build apps for all major platforms, they have 450,000++ end-users around the world, and claim millions of apps have been built. It connects to all major databases and can run on all major platforms.

It is not conceivable that Xojo is "full of bugs and cannot build feature rich apps" (as per your comments) as it would imply that all these users are clueless developers. How could they have survived if that was the case? I think maybe your comments are either referring to some very old version of years ago or your evaluation is not accurate.]]> JP WinDev Forum Sat, 26 Apr 2025 10:13:56 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798706#msg-798706 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798706#msg-798706
It is so buggy that one cannot build large scale software in it and the API nightmare especially Web API is just unbearable.

And the print engine is a joke.

And it cannot build feature rich mobile app at all. Have burnt my fingers and would advise against adopting it.

I can go on and on....

It would be better to explore and adopt Delphi instead. The have a community edition which is 100% free to setup and use and supports building cross platform app, mobile app, web apps and system drivers also!]]> YogiYang WinDev Forum Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:21:59 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798705#msg-798705 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798705#msg-798705
Check out Genexus - [www.genexus.com]

It will surely interest you as a versatile tool.]]> YogiYang WinDev Forum Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:16:05 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798703#msg-798703 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798703#msg-798703

Hello to all!

If you'd like to have constructive discussions about a possible switch from Windev or simply learn more about Xojo,
Are you a WinDev user thinking about the future of your applications*?

Worrying about migrating to Xojo, its advantages, limitations, and feedback*?

We’ve set up a dedicated Telegram group for Windev developers exploring Xojo as an alternative. Click here to join the chat, share experiences, and ask questions in real time: https://t.me/+qEzYO-TPgo85ZmRk

FYI:
The goal isn't to criticize Windev, which we all think is very good. The goal is to see if we can do things differently.
And especially if we can move towards other development environments with more favorable licensing and costs for their users.
Because just because we love Windev doesn't mean we necessarily want to become slaves to its new commercial terms.]]> FabGarcia2b WinDev Forum Tue, 22 Apr 2025 15:55:08 +0200 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798699#msg-798699 https://www.wxforum.info/read.php?27131,798690,798699#msg-798699
[wisej.com]

it is windev like visual controls and c # code . I havenot really looked at it since it gave me a big error on .net cor 7 use and .net 7 cor eis no longer supported bij Microsoft . But some videos looked promessing a litle bit the windev way 7 tab window for controls code behind in c#

So for all of you that wants to build buisiness app and no other programming ( likemost windev devs anyway i suppose ) this might me something to considder

regards]]> Allard WinDev Forum Thu, 17 Apr 2025 14:07:28 +0200